<pull-quote>with your wives<pull-quote>
<avatar-hoke><avatar-hoke><author-name>Hoke<author-name>
<p-comment>Noted.<p-comment>
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<avatar-murph><avatar-murph><author-name>Murph<author-name>
<p-comment>The fact that this must be noted...Jesus Christ Superstar.<p-comment>
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<avatar-hoke><avatar-hoke><author-name>Hoke<author-name>
<p-comment>Maybe my attempts at sarcasm aren't as recognizable in mild conflict?<p-comment>
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<avatar-murph><avatar-murph><author-name>Murph<author-name>
<p-comment>My bad, dog.<p-comment>
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<pull-quote>softened as a result<pull-quote>
<avatar-wuck><avatar-wuck><author-name>Wuck<author-name>
<p-comment>so, the vulnerable presented as less so?<p-comment>
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<avatar-murph><avatar-murph><author-name>Murph<author-name>
<p-comment>Like, I can listen to Pat talk about the video he saw of Konner's birth, the one with Koontz's wife's entrails in a bucket, because I'd enjoy Pat's telling of it, but—for many reasons—I don't want to watch that video myself, one of those reasons being that doing so would feel like a serious invasion of privacy, regardless of whether or not Koontz filmed it to be shared.<p-comment>
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<avatar-wuck><avatar-wuck><author-name>Wuck<author-name>
<p-comment>i didn’t know that existed! i wanna see! actually, i’m not sure if i do. yeah, i’d probably rather hear about it than see it. but i wanna hear about it, for sure. and maybe watch it. i’m not sure. that’s a tough one.<p-comment>
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<pull-quote>full-color renderings from the HD projector<pull-quote>
<avatar-hoke><avatar-hoke><author-name>Hoke<author-name>
<p-comment>This is both funny and emotionally telling about how naked you felt in that last letter.<p-comment>
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<avatar-wuck><avatar-wuck><author-name>Wuck<author-name>
<p-comment>i feel the opposite, murph. to tell folks pj has a little wiener is to judge it. displaying his wiener would allow folks to judge for themselves, should they feel like judging a wiener.<p-comment>
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<avatar-murph><avatar-murph><author-name>Murph<author-name>
<p-comment>I guess I just accept that each of you judge me to your wives. What else do spouses even talk about?<p-comment>
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<avatar-wuck><avatar-wuck><author-name>Wuck<author-name>
<p-comment>the moments sarah and i talk about are the one's we find the most interesting—not those of judgment usually, but of understanding. and the opinions i share with her are definitely not judgmental, but rather too tender to be told without embarrassment.<p-comment>
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<avatar-murph><avatar-murph><author-name>Murph<author-name>
<p-comment>Back to Pat's wiener. You're crazy, Wuck. I know that Pat would rather I share my begrudging judgment of it than blow up some image he didn't agree to beforehand in real color for others' judgment. "But he knows what he's doing with it," I could add, "the motion in the ocean" and all that. Some mystery remains this way. I could be wrong, after all. Or maybe I'm in on the planned underselling and over-delivering.<p-comment>
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<avatar-hoke><avatar-hoke><author-name>Hoke<author-name>
<p-comment>Do you feel what you wrote reveals some embarrassing limitation in you? I feel like it shows largeness of character, heart, and reflection.<p-comment>
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<avatar-murph><avatar-murph><author-name>Murph<author-name>
<p-comment>Do you think a small penis is a limitation of character!? What a refreshing indicator that would be.<p-comment>
<p-comment>I was thinking more the vulnerability of being shown off to others without knowing. Like, if I send you some tasteful nudes, are you immediately sharing them with your bestie?<p-comment>
<p-comment>Like Wuck said, I realize it’s a thing that could happen, but hearing about it, especially without hearing this bestie’s opinion? It's unnerving.<p-comment>
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<pull-quote>friend rendered specimen<pull-quote>
<avatar-hoke><avatar-hoke><author-name>Hoke<author-name>
<p-comment>That makes sense.<p-comment>
<p-comment>The truth is that I want to share ALL of these letters—my friends—with my best friend, Rachel.<p-comment>
<p-comment>But I know most of the time she couldn't care less about what we're talking about. So not only did this letter move me most, but I thought this subject landing in her domain as a therapist might be a good enough reason, a point of entry, a way to hold her attention and help her better understand this story and friendship-triangle that has so captured her husband. To use the terrible word so popular in our time, I thought it would be more "relatable."<p-comment>
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<pull-quote>In such company, how can I remain upset?<pull-quote>
<avatar-hoke><avatar-hoke><author-name>Hoke<author-name>
<p-comment>I've been accused by friends of handing out back-handed compliments. This feels like one, for sure. But I'll give you the benefit of the doubt that I always hope others give me: that while painting me as not caring about my son, you are actually saying this comforts you. Wild.<p-comment>
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<avatar-murph><avatar-murph><author-name>Murph<author-name>
<p-comment>I don't know what could possibly be construed as a compliment here. Anyway, it's in the letter for me not you, an attempt at some reassuring deduction:<p-comment>
<p-comment>Hoke loves Abram profoundly.<p-comment>
<p-comment>Hoke allowed the allure of sharing something awe-inspiring to outweigh Abram's momentary but not insignificant discomfort (as Hoke did with me).<p-comment>
<p-comment>Thus, Hoke loves me profoundly.<p-comment>
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<avatar-wuck><avatar-wuck><author-name>Wuck<author-name>
<p-comment>goddamn, if this isn’t all hilarious. profoundly charming.<p-comment>
<p-comment>here's my hot take: there's more betrayal in hoke offhandedly telling you how he shared your letter with rachel than there is in the sharing.<p-comment>
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<pull-quote>I’m sitting at the head of the dining-room table, where Conch usually sits, and you are sitting just to my left, our fully decked out Monterey Pine certainly in your view<pull-quote>
<avatar-hoke><avatar-hoke><author-name>Hoke<author-name>
<p-comment>Already feeling good feelings in this familiar setting, seat, and vantage.<p-comment>
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<pull-quote>Think what you will about this little story, Hoke, but it’s all the proof I’ll ever need of your love for me<pull-quote>
<avatar-hoke><avatar-hoke><author-name>Hoke<author-name>
<p-comment>Hm.<p-comment>
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<avatar-wuck><avatar-wuck><author-name>Wuck<author-name>
<p-comment>i might look for something else, murph. hoke will eat fries out of the trash can, for jesus christ superstar almighty’s sake. he’s also a lush over the holidays. it was certainly not the gesture you make it out to be here, however enamored you are of the supposed penance you endowed it with in the moment.<p-comment>
<p-comment>that said, i feel i should mention that i’d never do that to your mother’s holiday tablecloth.<p-comment>
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<avatar-hoke><avatar-hoke><author-name>Hoke<author-name>
<p-comment>Excuse me, Jeff Fenholt. Are you saying a drunk man eating fries out of a trash can is incapable of expressing true penitence and love, even with his mouth full?<p-comment>
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<avatar-murph><avatar-murph><author-name>Murph<author-name>
<p-comment>I have thought of all the ways it could have made sense to Hoke in the moment, and none of those possibilities matter.<p-comment>
<p-comment>He did something that legitimately upset me, and he was happy to wear one to make me feel legitimately better.<p-comment>
<p-comment>What's love if not putting someone else's happiness above your own?<p-comment>
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<pull-quote>I almost feel better<pull-quote>
<avatar-hoke><avatar-hoke><author-name>Hoke<author-name>
<p-comment>Save this date—August 15, my birthday—in your iPhone calendar, jerk. August 16, one day later, would've been a better morning to wake up to a hard ball-busting.<p-comment>
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<avatar-murph><avatar-murph><author-name>Murph<author-name>
<p-comment>Are you suggesting I didn't take your feelings into consideration quite as much as I should have?<p-comment>
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<avatar-hoke><avatar-hoke><author-name>Hoke<author-name>
<p-comment>Touché.<p-comment>
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<pull-quote>I do not need to look back over our first two-hundred pages to see if either of you have plumbed so deeply and so personally for so many pages<pull-quote>
<avatar-hoke><avatar-hoke><author-name>Hoke<author-name>
<p-comment>Have you turned your vulnerability into a macho flex? "I out-vulnerable'd you assholes. No question about it! Read the scoreboard."<p-comment>
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<avatar-murph><avatar-murph><author-name>Murph<author-name>
<p-comment>I'm just pointing out that you chose literally the most vulnerable moment to share.<p-comment>
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<avatar-wuck><avatar-wuck><author-name>Wuck<author-name>
<p-comment>to share the most vulnerable is to share—as i’m sure you would agree, murph—the most lovable.<p-comment>
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<avatar-hoke><avatar-hoke><author-name>Hoke<author-name>
<p-comment>Yes. Of course it's the most lovable.<p-comment>
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