<pull-quote>tom and katie<pull-quote>
<avatar-murph><avatar-murph><author-name>Murph<author-name>
<p-comment>I exhausted a lot of mental and emotional energies on these two. The story of you and Sharon upset me similarly but wasn't such a shock on the heels of Tom and Katie.<p-comment>
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<avatar-wuck><avatar-wuck><author-name>Wuck<author-name>
<p-comment>tom dating katie wrecked me. so many aspects of it. it took sharon to pull me out of that, but even then. do you remember me storming out of that restaurant in new york when we visited with conch our senior year? so embarrassing.<p-comment>
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<avatar-murph><avatar-murph><author-name>Murph<author-name>
<p-comment>Hmm. It's ringing a bell. Funny how I wouldn't have remembered it at all. Our greatest shames no one else remembers!<p-comment>
<p-comment>We would've been juniors.<p-comment>
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<avatar-wuck><avatar-wuck><author-name>Wuck<author-name>
<p-comment>juniors makes even more sense, because that was before sharon.<p-comment>
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<avatar-murph><avatar-murph><author-name>Murph<author-name>
<p-comment>I would have been resolutely pro-Tom then, as well. I would have had a different perspective on it even just a year later.<p-comment>
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<avatar-wuck><avatar-wuck><author-name>Wuck<author-name>
<p-comment>i could have killed tom. killed him. i could have killed her! this gets continually brushed over in the tom-katie narrative; i’m made out to be the villain in the end. tom betrayed me on that one. why do you think he was so willing to overlook it when i got with her later? there was no magnanimity there.<p-comment>
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<avatar-murph><avatar-murph><author-name>Murph<author-name>
<p-comment>all's fair<p-comment>
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<avatar-hoke><avatar-hoke><author-name>Hoke<author-name>
<p-comment>Yeah that applies. Dopey and young as teen love was, Tom was also in love. It would have been worse if Tom just wanted to score and moved on. You both were head over heels for Katie Smith. Do you feel betrayed by Katie, too--that, given the depth of the connection you both had, she went with Tom?<p-comment>
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<avatar-wuck><avatar-wuck><author-name>Wuck<author-name>
<p-comment>i did, yes.<p-comment>
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<avatar-murph><avatar-murph><author-name>Murph<author-name>
<p-comment>Everybody loves Tom.<p-comment>
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<pull-quote>i loved both feigmann’s original posit and sarah’s reaction<pull-quote>
<avatar-murph><avatar-murph><author-name>Murph<author-name>
<p-comment>Only a Sith deals in absolutes.<p-comment>
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<avatar-wuck><avatar-wuck><author-name>Wuck<author-name>
<p-comment>i do think the argument of the connotations of vanilla is interesting. its bean is expensive as shit. it has such rich, floral qualities, for sure more nuanced than the its colloquial throwaway meaning.<p-comment>
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<avatar-murph><avatar-murph><author-name>Murph<author-name>
<p-comment>I mean, like, arguing that a flavor of ice cream is the "finest." Just because something is your favorite doesn't make it the best.<p-comment>
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<pull-quote>binds<pull-quote>
<avatar-murph><avatar-murph><author-name>Murph<author-name>
<p-comment>You prefer "bind" to "fling?"<p-comment>
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<avatar-wuck><avatar-wuck><author-name>Wuck<author-name>
<p-comment>ha! i know! and both for my purposes alliterative! bind for me won out. would you have gone fling?<p-comment>
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<avatar-murph><avatar-murph><author-name>Murph<author-name>
<p-comment>Yeah.<p-comment>
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<avatar-wuck><avatar-wuck><author-name>Wuck<author-name>
<p-comment>both are fantastic.<p-comment>
<p-comment>a bound fling. a flung bind.<p-comment>
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<avatar-hoke><avatar-hoke><author-name>Hoke<author-name>
<p-comment>Murph beat me to the comment on this one. I love reading naturalists toss in these terms we'd never know. And here's Wuck the fledgling birdwatcher sticking it to us! Keep it up.<p-comment>
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<pull-quote>tail<pull-quote>
<avatar-murph><avatar-murph><author-name>Murph<author-name>
<p-comment>I mean, Pat, right?<p-comment>
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<avatar-wuck><avatar-wuck><author-name>Wuck<author-name>
<p-comment>likely. although there’s little andy won’t do when he’s riled and his adrenaline has taken over. if pat did it, it would be for us; if andy did it, it would be for himself.<p-comment>
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<pull-quote>rehearse<pull-quote>
<avatar-murph><avatar-murph><author-name>Murph<author-name>
<p-comment>I've often tried to imagine all those nights Andy spent at your house during The Diviners sophomore year. In my mind it's a non-stop rollercoaster of hellbent rehearsing and hysterical grab-ass.<p-comment>
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<avatar-wuck><avatar-wuck><author-name>Wuck<author-name>
<p-comment>yeah. hard to imagine having the ability to know how to rehearse scene work at that age, aside blocking and memorization.<p-comment>
<p-comment>he used to knock on my door in the morning. i’d answer, and his bare ass would be in the air, cheeks spread, and he’d fart. repulsive stuff.<p-comment>
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<avatar-hoke><avatar-hoke><author-name>Hoke<author-name>
<p-comment>This joy will return, Wuck, with your child. Remember to laugh and chase the kid as you would Andy, not just to scold and wipe the (probably) unclean little culo.<p-comment>
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<pull-quote>each of your high school girlfriends prior to either of you knowing them<pull-quote>
<avatar-murph><avatar-murph><author-name>Murph<author-name>
<p-comment>I know plenty about your crush on Jennifer Garrobo--she wouldn't shut up about it--but you also crushed on Karin? This is fuzzy if not non-existent for me. Did you guys have math together or something like that?<p-comment>
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<avatar-wuck><avatar-wuck><author-name>Wuck<author-name>
<p-comment>god, jenn was so cruel. karin in math, yes.<p-comment>
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<avatar-murph><avatar-murph><author-name>Murph<author-name>
<p-comment>Did you make your feelings known to Karin?<p-comment>
<p-comment>To Katie, for that matter?<p-comment>
<p-comment>This thread of you crushing hard on your best friends' soon-to-be girlfriends is fucking fascinating.<p-comment>
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<avatar-wuck><avatar-wuck><author-name>Wuck<author-name>
<p-comment>possible but doubtful. i assumed a lot back then. i remember treating her poorly after she got together with hoke, and she threatened me with having another one of her friends kick my ass.<p-comment>
<p-comment>none of these crushes, by the way, had anything to do with any of you. i spent a lot of time with each of them prior to any of you knowing any of them. well, maybe not karin, but we were definitely friends. i had no game; what can i say?<p-comment>
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<avatar-murph><avatar-murph><author-name>Murph<author-name>
<p-comment>If they had something to do with us, it would not be fascinating.<p-comment>
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<avatar-hoke><avatar-hoke><author-name>Hoke<author-name>
<p-comment>It was the wampum pouch you wore around your neck, Wuck. Might have hurt your game.<p-comment>
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<avatar-wuck><avatar-wuck><author-name>Wuck<author-name>
<p-comment>you think?<p-comment>
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<avatar-hoke><avatar-hoke><author-name>Hoke<author-name>
<p-comment>I remember when you and I sat next to each other on a school bus for a rare sophomore field trip--or last week of freshman year?--when you hinted at the fact that you were into Karin (my all-freshman-year daily obsession) as well. Typical me, I remember feeling so BAD, like almost apologizing for my new dating relationship with her. I was instantly afraid I'd wronged you. But I remember you were very cool about it, stiff upper lip, word of congrats, changed the subject. I thought, this Nick Webber guy's not bad.<p-comment>
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<avatar-wuck><avatar-wuck><author-name>Wuck<author-name>
<p-comment>jesus. no recollection of this.<p-comment>
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